Comments on: Personal Responsibility http://www.rantsofrob.com/2009/07/27/personal-responsibility/ Progressive Politics and Culture Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:39:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Bill http://www.rantsofrob.com/2009/07/27/personal-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-210 Bill Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:46:57 +0000 http://paraproductions.com/rantsofrob/?p=298#comment-210 I think Kevin needs to get off the public dole since he's so self sufficient and quit relying on government provided security (police, fire, military), government provided roads and infrastructure that allow all the goods and services he relies on to be delivered, government provided education, hospitals, etc. True, we should strive to be as self-sufficient as possible and value freedom and hard work, but we're also a community and should try to find ways of helping those who are down and providing for the common good and security by pooling some resources in the form of taxes to pay for large endeavors. Health care is very broken when it comes down to a trip to the ER for most people long after they've gotten too sick for early, less costly intervention. They don't ever go to the doctor when it could make a difference because so many people without coverage can't afford regular preventive care. I just lost my job not long ago and I no longer have employer subsidized health care, except for as long as I can afford the COBRA payments. My partner does not have a job where health care is provided nor did he qualify to be on my healthcare. There's got to be some more sane way to provide early, regular care for people that is less expensive than what we have now. I think Kevin needs to get off the public dole since he’s so self sufficient and quit relying on government provided security (police, fire, military), government provided roads and infrastructure that allow all the goods and services he relies on to be delivered, government provided education, hospitals, etc. True, we should strive to be as self-sufficient as possible and value freedom and hard work, but we’re also a community and should try to find ways of helping those who are down and providing for the common good and security by pooling some resources in the form of taxes to pay for large endeavors.

Health care is very broken when it comes down to a trip to the ER for most people long after they’ve gotten too sick for early, less costly intervention. They don’t ever go to the doctor when it could make a difference because so many people without coverage can’t afford regular preventive care. I just lost my job not long ago and I no longer have employer subsidized health care, except for as long as I can afford the COBRA payments. My partner does not have a job where health care is provided nor did he qualify to be on my healthcare. There’s got to be some more sane way to provide early, regular care for people that is less expensive than what we have now.

]]> By: Rob Field http://www.rantsofrob.com/2009/07/27/personal-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-197 Rob Field Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:06:01 +0000 http://paraproductions.com/rantsofrob/?p=298#comment-197 Full disclosure, Kevin is my cousin and former Airborne officer who served multiple tours in Iraq. Welcome to the blog, Kevin. Full disclosure, Kevin is my cousin and former Airborne officer who served multiple tours in Iraq. Welcome to the blog, Kevin.

]]> By: pris http://www.rantsofrob.com/2009/07/27/personal-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-153 pris Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:29:01 +0000 http://paraproductions.com/rantsofrob/?p=298#comment-153 Nice rant, Rob. There was an article in the Roanoke Times today that is relevant: "For the 10th year in a row, a small army of volunteers stepped up last weekend to transform the Wise County Fairgrounds into a free health care clinic for the uninsured and underinsured. Every year, the numbers seeking treatment grow. Organizers said most come from the surrounding coal-mining region, but the failure that draws them here once a year is not an Appalachian phenomenon. It's a national failure of the way America provides health care, a way that must change." more here: http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/wb/213551 Nice rant, Rob. There was an article in the Roanoke Times today that is relevant:

“For the 10th year in a row, a small army of volunteers stepped up last weekend to transform the Wise County Fairgrounds into a free health care clinic for the uninsured and underinsured.

Every year, the numbers seeking treatment grow.

Organizers said most come from the surrounding coal-mining region, but the failure that draws them here once a year is not an Appalachian phenomenon. It’s a national failure of the way America provides health care, a way that must change.”

more here:
http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/wb/213551

]]> By: Kevin http://www.rantsofrob.com/2009/07/27/personal-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Kevin Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:43:20 +0000 http://paraproductions.com/rantsofrob/?p=298#comment-141 Have you ever read the Constitution of the United States or the Declaration of Independence? Specifically Section 8 of the Constitution which lists 18 "Powers Delegated to Congress" and the 10th Amendment which states, " The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." The Federal Government is not the Savior of the country. It has routinely usurped our freedom under the guise of providing safety or entitlement to us poor stupid people who aren't intelligent enough to live our lives without the Federal Government taking care of us or providing for us. America is the greatest country in the world as is evidenced by the fact that more people from other countries want to come here than any other country in the world. These immigrant wannabes, think they will find freedom and opportunity here. The freedom to make decisions conserning thier lives and how to raise thier family. The opportunity to succeed based on their own hard work, intelligence, ingenuity, and determination. If they wanted Socialism (Big Daddy Government providing for them cradle to grave), they'd be flocking to Europe. What they will find here is a federal government that controls every aspect of their lives and is operating way outside of its authority as defined in the Constitution. A federal government that punishes those who actually contribute to society by stealing their money and passing it out to a bunch of parasites who do nothing but sponge off the work of others. I recommend you read our founding documents and spend some time thinking about true freedom which I define as the ability to live my life without government interference, the ability to make decisions for myself and my family, the ability to keep the money I earn from MY labor and distribute it how I decide to distribute it. Have you ever read the Constitution of the United States or the Declaration of Independence? Specifically Section 8 of the Constitution which lists 18 “Powers Delegated to Congress” and the 10th Amendment which states, ” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” The Federal Government is not the Savior of the country. It has routinely usurped our freedom under the guise of providing safety or entitlement to us poor stupid people who aren’t intelligent enough to live our lives without the Federal Government taking care of us or providing for us.
America is the greatest country in the world as is evidenced by the fact that more people from other countries want to come here than any other country in the world. These immigrant wannabes, think they will find freedom and opportunity here. The freedom to make decisions conserning thier lives and how to raise thier family. The opportunity to succeed based on their own hard work, intelligence, ingenuity, and determination. If they wanted Socialism (Big Daddy Government providing for them cradle to grave), they’d be flocking to Europe. What they will find here is a federal government that controls every aspect of their lives and is operating way outside of its authority as defined in the Constitution. A federal government that punishes those who actually contribute to society by stealing their money and passing it out to a bunch of parasites who do nothing but sponge off the work of others.
I recommend you read our founding documents and spend some time thinking about true freedom which I define as the ability to live my life without government interference, the ability to make decisions for myself and my family, the ability to keep the money I earn from MY labor and distribute it how I decide to distribute it.

]]> By: Lark Shields http://www.rantsofrob.com/2009/07/27/personal-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Lark Shields Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:17:16 +0000 http://paraproductions.com/rantsofrob/?p=298#comment-137 Nice words Rob, but Jerry is exactly correct. It is the Democrats that are not standing up for the American people. When over 70% of Americans want a Public Option (and probably single payer) there is no excuse for the Democrats not to get this done. Now I am hearing there will be no Public Option and Obama is not going to draw a line in the sand. Whom so much for the change we need. You could see a mass exodus next election. Keep trying, but the Dems don't have the _____ to stand up for the American people it seems to me. Nice words Rob, but Jerry is exactly correct. It is the Democrats that are not standing up for the American people. When over 70% of Americans want a Public Option (and probably single payer) there is no excuse for the Democrats not to get this done. Now I am hearing there will be no Public Option and Obama is not going to draw a line in the sand. Whom so much for the change we need. You could see a mass exodus next election. Keep trying, but the Dems don’t have the _____ to stand up for the American people it seems to me.

]]> By: Jerry Axelrod http://www.rantsofrob.com/2009/07/27/personal-responsibility/comment-page-1/#comment-135 Jerry Axelrod Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:40:08 +0000 http://paraproductions.com/rantsofrob/?p=298#comment-135 Here, here Rob. You tell a convincing story favoring Health Care Reform. Our problem is not the Republicans, but the so called moderate Democrats who are the whole owned subsidiaries of the Insurance Companies and HMOs. They need to be exposed for their taking millions of dollars from these organizations and failing to protect the public, their true responsiblity. Keep up the good work. Jerry Here, here Rob. You tell a convincing story favoring Health Care Reform. Our problem is not the Republicans, but the so called moderate Democrats who are the whole owned subsidiaries of the Insurance Companies and HMOs. They need to be exposed for their taking millions of dollars from these organizations and failing to protect the public, their true responsiblity. Keep up the good work. Jerry

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